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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    Please post the original source of it even it's from another server. You have no intention to promote, you are just sharing helpful guide that apply on irc globally.
    - Well, then it's promoting anyways, even it's not intended

    So you want in your PM or here, the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingMachino View Post
    - Well, then it's promoting anyways, even it's not intended

    So you want in your PM or here, the link?
    Let me tell you the differences of promoting and not,

    Promoting would be like these:
    Read more and subscribe to our website for more helpful guides -> link

    or like this:

    Please give me thanks and reputation in my user from the original post -> link

    or like this:

    Join this server also it has helpful guides -> link



    Now these are examples for not promoting:
    Original source -> link

    or like this (in case the thread was not made by you):
    Credits & Thanks to this website -> link


    If you didn't, you might just copy pasted it from there and didn't give the source and just claiming it as yours, while they might complain here after looking the content being copied.

    I think i've mentioned clearly where to post it (did i say PM?). Not that i mention you are copying but since you use different names (and you didn't even mention the name) and just want to PM it, i know it's for privacy but at least give source address, be a good writer. Because recently, one of our Trusted Player shared a video guide and claimed it was created by him (and not mentioning the original source), then the original video creator came registering on this forum complaining on the thread.

    It's helpful enough however, you need to update the guide since it's kinda outdated.

    Plus, there is no more "xOP", it was the feature in old IRC daemon server, the IRC.TL server is now using InspiIRCd, therefore the basic commands and manual should be already officially documented here:
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/

    [10:37:14] Your host is foco.ca.irc.tl, running version InspIRCd-2.0
    Since you will just need the User Reference, then the useful links are below:
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/User_Modes
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/Channel_Modes
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/Commands

    However the guide from irc.tl website should be helpful enough already since we are just using that network.

    If you want to know more about IRC ↵
    Last edited by Robo_N1X; 08-01-17 at 03:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    Let me tell you the differences of promoting and not,

    Promoting would be like these:
    Read more and subscribe to our website for more helpful guides -> link

    or like this:

    Please give me thanks and reputation in my user from the original post -> link

    or like this:

    Join this server also it has helpful guides -> link

    Now these are examples for not promoting:
    Original source -> link

    or like this (in case the thread was not made by you):
    Credits & Thanks to this website -> link
    Yeah, I know what promoting is, no offense...

    I meant, if I tell the source openly here, it's sort of promotion, indirectly, so that's my point, wasn't certain about how staff here felt about it.

    Also I think probably some players from here will recognize it, that's why I said to contact me at that specific server and ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    If you didn't, you might just copy pasted it from there and didn't give the source and just claiming it as yours, while they might complain here after looking the content being copied.

    I think i've mentioned clearly where to post it (did i say PM?). Not that i mention you are copying but since you use different names (and you didn't even mention the name) and just want to PM it, i know it's for privacy but at least give source address, be a good writer. Because recently, one of our Trusted Player shared a video guide and claimed it was created by him (and not mentioning the original source), then the original video creator came registering on this forum complaining on the thread.
    - I just asked you, no need to be defensive about it, I haven't shown an attitude towards you.

    And different forums got different policies, some are strict about that promoting other server rules, but I wanted of course to tell the source, it's not about I'm hiding it, out of politeness I didn't type it, wasn't to hide, but I can undertand if you doubt me, since you don't know me, but I'm the proud author of this work and other guides, I like doing them.

    Okay, I understand why you want me to post it, no problems.

    I'll post the link in all my guides here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    It's helpful enough however, you need to update the guide since it's kinda outdated.

    Plus, there is no more "xOP", it was the feature in old IRC daemon server, the IRC.TL server is now using InspiIRCd, therefore the basic commands and manual should be already officially documented here:
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/
    - Yes true that, that part is outdated, that's why I left it last, like a history lesson, the important parts are first.

    Thank You for the link.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    Since you will just need the User Reference, then the useful links are below:
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/User_Modes
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/Channel_Modes
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/Commands

    However the guide from irc.tl website should be helpful enough already since we are just using that network.

    If you want to know more about IRC ↵
    - Aight, I'm talking mainly about irc.tl network yes, I've commented though that there might be other commands at other networks/clients.

    Feels like you're pointing out that my guide isn't needed, but not all are advanced users like yourself (obviously) and know about these stuff, I just thought that it might help some to have commands gathered and simplified, since not all know where to look, at once place and some features.´

    I like criticism though, if it's given in a good constructive way, so thanks for your input.

    And it was fun to see other people here appreciated it.

    EDIT: I changed a lot in my post.
    Last edited by KillingMachino; 08-01-17 at 08:47 AM. Reason: typos

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    Well I don't think you should worry about the fact that it is "outdated" as it contains basic commands that are available to the players. Most likely the people who will consult this tutorial are newbies therefore I don't think you have missed out anything on that agenda. Overall it's a nice tutorial so don't worry about it lacking something, this information is enough - some of the stuff you said is rarely used or even known by many players so it is fine. Here's an example:

    there is no more "xOP", it was the feature in old IRC daemon server, the IRC.TL server is now using InspiIRCd
    I doubt a player would know what that is, let alone even understand it in the first place (since it's not needed). Most common command usages have been listed and explained so that should be good enough in itself.

    KillingMachino:

    What Robo is trying to tell you is, citing the source of your information is good, I know you are saying it's "indirectly" promoting the brand, however regardless of that, it is not your intention and you are simply linking "where" you got the source from.

    Robo_N1X:
    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X
    If you didn't, you might just copy pasted it from there and didn't give the source and just claiming it as yours, while they might complain here after looking the content being copied.
    Quote Originally Posted by KillingMachino
    Yes, I put many hours to this, but myself
    Quote Originally Posted by KillingMachino
    I'm the proud author of this work and other guides
    Quote Originally Posted by KillingMachino
    This guide is posted at another forums by me (May 17th, 2012)
    It's his work, so although a citation is good - it is his work therefore he owns his rights to it. Of course if he used other sources during the making of the tutorial, they need to be cited.
    Last edited by Eliteus; 08-01-17 at 11:58 AM.
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    Brilliant Work! Outstanding! Keep it up.. That's best guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliteus View Post
    Well I don't think you should worry about the fact that it is "outdated" as it contains basic commands that are available to the players. Most likely the people who will consult this tutorial are newbies therefore I don't think you have missed out anything on that agenda. Overall it's a nice tutorial so don't worry about it lacking something, this information is enough - some of the stuff you said is rarely used or even known by many players so it is fine. Here's an example:



    I doubt a player would know what that is, let alone even understand it in the first place (since it's not needed). Most common command usages have been listed and explained so that should be good enough in itself.
    It should be removed already. It will confuse the user when they try /cs xop and it says unknown command. It does needed for user who owns or operate a channel to understand giving a permanent flags/user modes to other. Though he already removed it now..

    However i just remember that there is an equivalent feature like xOP called flag "TEMPLATE", check it out in /cs help i don't remember correctly the usage.

    I'm also informing this to him so he could also update his original post since it's on the same network.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliteus View Post
    It's his work, so although a citation is good - it is his work therefore he owns his rights to it. Of course if he used other sources during the making of the tutorial, they need to be cited.

    If it's his work then he should mention the name he used in that other forum, not hiding it from public.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    (and you didn't even mention the name)
    Even it's indirectly he should do it since we can know if the information he get is from a private/closed site, or a public/open site.


    Well, don't mind alot about that now as it's already solved... You could find out the "TEMPLATE" in /cs as i'm pretty sure it was like xOP.
    Last edited by Robo_N1X; 08-01-17 at 01:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krrish View Post
    Brilliant Work! Outstanding! Keep it up.. That's best guide.
    - Thanks a lot, glad that it's helpful!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliteus View Post
    Well I don't think you should worry about the fact that it is "outdated" as it contains basic commands that are available to the players. Most likely the people who will consult this tutorial are newbies therefore I don't think you have missed out anything on that agenda. Overall it's a nice tutorial so don't worry about it lacking something, this information is enough.
    - Thanks fella, at least some of you appreciate this

    My point of making this originally was that it could help others to have fun with IRC and if you have useful information at one spot it's more handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post

    It's helpful enough however, you need to update the guide since it's kinda outdated.

    Plus, there is no more "xOP", it was the feature in old IRC daemon server, the IRC.TL server is now using InspiIRCd, therefore the basic commands and manual should be already officially documented here:
    https://wiki.inspircd.org/.
    I doubt a player would know what that is, let alone even understand it in the first place (since it's not needed). Most common command usages have been listed and explained so that should be good enough in itself.
    - Yeah I explained about the xOP thing earlier, I had it there at last spot, it wasn't like it was xOP 99 % of the guide.

    And good point Eliteus, also I've now removed xOP completely from this guide and some other commands, perhaps better to not confuse anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robo_N1X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliteus View Post
    KillingMachino:

    What Robo is trying to tell you is, citing the source of your information is good, I know you are saying it's "indirectly" promoting the brand, however regardless of that, it is not your intention and you are simply linking "where" you got the source from.
    If it's his work then he should mention the name he used in that other forum, not hiding it from public.
    - Yeah, precisely, of course I'd tell about it, I had no intention to "hide" the information (don't know why you use that word, since I'd hide indeed if I wasn't mentioning this existed by me at another forums), I was telling in my original post that I posted this at another forums with another nick and that I can confirm it's me, but yeah, I didn't post a link because of politeness, since I didn't know how strict you was or not with promoting indirectly, but now I know and there's no problem with that.
    Last edited by KillingMachino; 08-01-17 at 03:45 PM. Reason: Typos.

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    No, leave it... I'm talking about Template... check /cs help template it's similar to xOP (but it can be customized per channel)
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    Added info about a quite fun irc.tl BOT, cloud bot which was added, you type commands and can have it say funny words or so and interact with other users, it's used in IRC channel, simple to use, check at Games and BOTs section.

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