New Player Bonus

[GenGar]

Hello all, I am here to suggest a little something that could benefit new players as soon as they register.
My suggestion is: As soon as a new player to register on the server, he will get 20 cookies, cakes, icecream, biscuits. 20 cookies are for the new player to buy an extra weapon / sc.

I am suggesting this because I see countless new players asking for cookies and cakes, some admins are not giving cookies by reports, which makes difficult a player get cookies. I hope you understand and take into account my proposal.

[Nissan]

Seems to be a good suggestion man, well done.

[Dodo]

Some players will abuse it by registering tons of accounts and transferring the gift to their main account. Also not all admins don't give cookies in reports. Only Pedro because he don't have cookies.

[Eliteus]

20 cookies, cakes, biscuits and icecream is still pretty low considering most newbies spam /rocket during deathmatches. Perhaps a bit more like 50 - 100 perhaps would be an ideal amount.

Some players will abuse it by registering tons of accounts and transferring the gift to their main account. Also not all admins don't give cookies in reports. Only Pedro because he don't have cookies.

If that was a huge issue then, registering and transferring money from many accounts to the original account would also be a similar circumstance. Simple, similarly like this being a rulebreak so will be the cookie transfer. Admins can usually tell when malicious transfers are being made because:

A) It will be the same amount
B) The same amount will be transferred many times making it seem suspicious

This really isn't a huge issue.

Nevertheless, I have nothing against this suggestion since it's always good to start with 'something' than nothing.

[GenGar]

Original Posted by Eliteus :

20 cookies, cakes, biscuits and icecream is still pretty low considering most newbies spam /rocket during deathmatches. Perhaps a bit more like 50 - 100 perhaps would be an ideal amount.

Well, 20 Regarding the number of cookies, I considered only the use of the command /sc for
get an extra weapon, it is for admins decide a number of cookies

[DeathBeatZ]

20 cookies, cakes, biscuits and icecream is still pretty low considering most newbies spam /rocket during deathmatches. Perhaps a bit more like 50 - 100 perhaps would be an ideal amount.

That's a bit high. Keep in mind there are people who make new accounts just to annoy or fuck around. Twenty is a pretty fair amount IMO.

If that was a huge issue then, registering and transferring money from many accounts to the original account would also be a similar circumstance.

I know you might be giving just an example, but cookies draws so much more attention than just money, because as you and everyone knows, money is useless here.

If that was a huge issue then, registering and transferring money from many accounts to the original account would also be a similar circumstance. Simple, similarly like this being a rulebreak so will be the cookie transfer. Admins can usually tell when malicious transfers are being made because:

A) It will be the same amount
B) The same amount will be transferred many times making it seem suspicious

This really isn't a huge issue.

I agree here, it would be suspicious and easy to be detected. A script on irc to alert such suspicious thing when there are no admins online wouldn't be hard to make aswell i believe.

[DiscolouredFrog]

Some players will abuse it by registering tons of accounts and transferring the gift to their main account. Also not all admins don't give cookies in reports. Only Pedro because he don't have cookies.

I agree with Dodo, it would probably be abused, and even though it's easy to detect, it's also easy for these kind of scams to go unnoticed.

[Eliteus]

That's a bit high. Keep in mind there are people who make new accounts just to annoy or fuck around. Twenty is a pretty fair amount IMO.

Well let admins decide the numbers, 20 is way too low, like I said noobs love spamming the /rocket command as it is a good server feature. 50 is not a lot at all, it's not too less either - remember at the same time people try to come here to fuck around there are also others who come here to be in a good community and have a fun time using all the server features.

I know you might be giving just an example, but cookies draws so much more attention than just money, because as you and everyone knows, money is useless here.

Correction: Money is useless for us. Most of the server consists of noobs always asking stuff like 'How get do money plxxx' or something. For them money matters a lot as it is a matter of superiority complex. I remember money used to matter a lot to me especially when I was playing with friends. I remember racing my friends on foot to get to the /gc property to buy it. Trust me mate - money matters a lot for noobs.

I agree with Dodo, it would probably be abused, and even though it's easy to detect, it's also easy for these kind of scams to go unnoticed.

Like I already said, money matters a lot for noobs and we all know that. With that being said, anyone who has made malicious transfers has been caught out. Even if they do make malicious transfers, their IP can be tracked and it'd come from the same location. People who do that usually do not get any advantage anyway since the amount they transfer is like 50,000 dollars whereas the top end amounts of money are like 99999999999 dollars. (<- that's for real too). Similarly with cookies, the same issues occur here, except cookies amount is so much more lower, when they use multiple accounts they still would not gain a lot because it's 20 cookies in an account. Let's make a little equation here:

- Leaderboard Cookie requirement: At the moment I stand at 10th place in the leaderboard for cookies at 54372 cookies.
- There are 20 cookies in an account like we already said.
- The speed at which they could do this is around 30 seconds considering the load, the connecting and the typing of the command.

54372 ÷ 20 = 2718.6

They'd have to go through that many accounts to get into the leader

2718.6 accounts × 30 s/account = 81558 s

81558s = 1359.3 hours = 56.6375 days = 1.862052754 months

Okay enough of that, the point is no sad fuck would try sit on their computer 1 day and 24/7 try transfer cookies into his original account for almost 2 months. It is also highly unlikely someone has more computer in their house that has SA-MP installed. So please stop being picky as this is a good system to give a player a boost rather than starting with nothing.

I think you under estimate how sad some players can be. That being said, you have a point.

No one would sit every second of 2 months on SA-MP transferring cookies. I'm saying every second without sleep, without meals, without a social life, without work. Yes, no one in SA-MP or in history is that sad.

[DiscolouredFrog]

Okay enough of that, the point is no sad fuck would try sit on their computer 1 day and 24/7 try transfer cookies into his original account for almost 2 months.

I think you under estimate how sad some players can be. That being said, you have a point.